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How to value a mining company


By Paul van Eeden

I received an interesting question about company valuations from one of my newsletter subscribers that I thought I would address as a Commentary. It is a multi-part question that will take more than one Commentary to address; this week is part one: Valuing Mining Stocks.

Mining is a finite business. Mineral deposits contain a certain amount of ore and when that ore is mined out the deposit is depleted, no matter what you do or wish.

That is in stark contrast to say, an auto parts manufacturer, who can adapt to new demands and specification changes and (hopefully) stay in business for many decades. When you value an auto parts company, you can compare the companys price to earnings, price to cash flow, operating margin and net profit margin (among other things) to the companys peers to assess whether the stock in question is relatively cheap, or relatively expensive. You can also get a sense of whether the stock is cheap or expensive in an absolute sense by looking at the book value per share and comparing things like the profit margin and dividend rate to prevailing interest rates. But, embedded in all this (except book value per share) is the implicit assumption that the earnings and cash flow are for all intents and purposes infinite. When you are dealing with a business that can be reasonably expected to continue in a similar fashion for many decades, earnings per share, cash flow per share, dividend rate, etc. are meaningful. That is not the case with mining.

Take a hypothetical mining company that has only one mine as an example. Let us assume that mine is going to produce for another five years before the ore will be depleted. Now, let us say that the companys price to earnings ratio is ten. A hypothetical auto parts manufacturer also has a price to earnings ratio of ten. Based on just this one metric, we cannot differentiate between the two stocks. Let us also assume that the prevailing ten-year interest rate is five percent.

This means that you can invest your money in a ten-year bond and earn five percent per year while taking relatively little risk (other than the risk of interest rates rising, which could negatively impact all the investments under consideration and is therefore not considered).

The auto parts manufacturer has a price to earnings ratio of ten. That means for every dollars worth of stock you buy, you expect to earn ten cents, or ten percent, in earnings. It does not really matter for our purposes whether those earnings are retained by the company or paid out as a dividend since, either way, the earnings accrue to the benefit of shareholders. Furthermore, you can reasonably assume that the auto parts manufacturer is going to be in business for several more decades and, because you have done lots of due diligence, you can also assume that the future earnings are likely to be the same as the current earnings. So, if you buy the auto parts stock, you will earn ten percent per year as opposed to five percent on your bonds. The auto parts stock is probably riskier than a bond; however, if you can make twice as much money it might be tempting.

Then you look at the mining stock and notice that it, too, has a price to earnings ratio of ten and, therefore, you can also make ten percent a year if you bought that stock. But you would be wrong. The mining companys mine only has a five-year life ahead of it. So, if it has a price to earnings ratio of ten it means that for every dollar of stock you buy you get ten cents in earnings. But the earnings are only going to last another five years, so your total earnings per dollar of cost will only be fifty cents — - half of what you paid for the stock — - and then the mine is depleted. Thats why comparing a mining stock to other investment opportunities on the basis of price to earnings, price to cash flow, or dividend yield is complete nonsense. It is just as futile to compare mining stocks to each other based on these metrics because mining companies have different mine lives in their operations.

The only reasonable way to evaluate a mining company is to look at the net present value of the potential future cash flow, discounted at an appropriate discount rate. You have to take into account not just the cash flow that the mine(s) is generating, but also sustaining capital costs (including future exploration and development costs) associated with keeping the mine in production. Assuming you can derive a suitable cash flow model for each mine that a company owns you can then calculate the net present value of future cash flow by using an appropriate discount rate to represent the geological, political, social and financial risks. If you sum all the net present values together, add any other assets on the balance sheet and subtract any debt, you will arrive at the net asset value per share. In a rational world you would expect to pay no more for a mining stock than its net asset value per share — - how do you expect to make money if you consistently pay more for stocks than what they are worth? But, in the real world, mining stocks almost always trade for more than the net asset value of their constituent mines, and for a good reason.

Mining stocks also offer leverage to commodity prices. Take a gold mining company as an example. Assume we have a company that mines gold for a total cost of $400 an ounce, and let us pretend the gold price is $500 an ounce. The net present value of the mine would be calculated based on the $100 margin. If the gold price increases by 20% to $600 an ounce the net present value of the mine will double, since the margin would now be $200 an ounce. Thus the value of the company increased five times more than the increase in the gold price. Most people buy mining stocks because of this leverage.

What should be immediately evident is that if you pay more for mining stocks than what they are worth, on the speculation that the price of the underlying commodity will increase, you are merely gambling on the commodity price. Fortunately there is a way to quantify the premium that one should pay for a mining stock to incorporate the leverage it has to the underlying commodity price. There is a formula called the Black-Scholes Model that can be used to calculate the "option" value of a mining stock [Editors note, you can find more information on the Black Scholes model and further links at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black-Scholes ]. What should be done is to calculate the discounted net present value of the all the companys mines and then add the "option value" of the mines as calculated by the Black Sholes formula to obtain a more realistic asset value per share. By adding the optionality of mining shares to the net present value of the mines themselves we can account for the fact that mining shares trade at a premium to their net asset value because of their leverage to the underlying commodities.

If you calculate the net asset value of a mining stock as described above you will get a result that can be used to compare different mining companies to each other, and mining companies to investments in other sectors. Unfortunately, very few mining analysts employ the Black Sholes model to calculate mining net asset values, so for most people buying mining stocks really comes down to blind speculation on commodity prices.

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A Proven Profitable Forex Expert Advisor

Ok, this is what all of you have always been looking for and probably the reason why you entered my website. You are looking for a proven, profitable expert advisor that you can trust and trade in your live account with the most minimal risk of large equity draw downs.

With all due respect : You are delusional.

Lets start with the facts. What do you mean by proven ? Someone has made money with it ? Someone has been making money with it for an x amount of time ? Many have made money ? It has made money on different brokers ? As you can see, the answer to this question is very difficult by itself. I will now make something clear to you which you may have already suspected and which may seem a little bit hard to read : There is no such thing as a proven system in the forex market and there is no such thing as a low risk expert advisor.

Yes, thats right. There is no such thing. This happens by definition, because the forex market is dynamic, ever changing and unpredictable in nature. Hence, it is what you would call a high risk market. It is high risk because (you guessed right) the risk of losing capital is very high ! And this cannot be avoided by using an automated trading system. There is no such thing as a low risk opportunity in a high risk market. If you expect to make money consistently, for years, in the forex market, using automated systems, without high risk, please choose another investment vehicle. Perhaps something less risky, like T bonds, would better fit your risk profile.

Does this mean that evaluating expert advisors is meaningless ? No. By testing expert advisors in live and demo accounts we can get an idea of how they work, under what circumstances they work, what consistent profit and expected draw downs we might get. This is because even though the forex market is unpredictable, it can be statistically studied. We cannot tell what will exactly happen, but we can estimate the probabilities and this is one of the things that tells a profitable trader apart from a failing one.

Lets say for example that certain automated trading system gets a 4% profit from 2005 to 2008 in live testing. We can look at overall market conditions and the past 60 years of market history and tell if they are likely to change, to what and what the probability of working would be if said conditions would change. Was the market in an uptrend ? Downtrend ? going sideways ? What was the volatility ? In essence, the longer an ea works, the more robust it it, that is, the more change in market conditions it can withstand. However, if market conditions were to change to something that did not happen for the last x years the ea was tested on, then it can fail.

This is were that disclaimer we have all read comes into play "past perfomance does NOT guarantee future results". Read it about a hundred times.

What is our defense against this ? Have more than one expert advisor, have a portfolio and have them on separate accounts, if all of them have been tested and are robust, when one fails, the most probable thing is that the other will not and vice versa. You need to diversify in automated trading because the systems have limited visibility, they cannot overcome big changes in market conditions due to their rather inflexible nature. Will every tested ea ever programmed have a period in which it will wipe an account ? The answer is, probably yes.

If you would be interested in learning a little bit more about my opinions, criteria and what expert advisors I have tested and consider worth trading please consider buying my ebook on automated trading or subscribing to my weekly newsletter to receive updates and check the live and demo accounts I am running with several expert advisors. I hope you enjoyed the article !

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My Life as a Currency Trader and I thought I would never say that

Today I want to write a post which has a more personal tone than the other posts you may have read on my website in the past. A few people have asked me about my daily routine and if trading actually leaves room to "free me" from the 9 to 5 life style and provide me with the ability to spend a lot of time with my friends, family, etc. Within the next few paragraphs I will tell you the story of my everyday life so that you can see how my life around automated trading woprks and if this is the type of life style you would want to have. I have to warn you that my life doesnt include monthly cruises to the Caribbean or driving a Porsche out of my drive way but I can assure you that it has many negative and positive aspects, like any other life style has.

I am a big believer in early mornings and I usually wake up sometime between 5 and 6 a.m, usually with the first ray of sunlight. After doing this I usually check my email and answer whatever questions, doubts or inquiries people have sent me during the night, this usually takes me about half an hour although I can get even 25 emails every day which require thoughtful and precise answers (I am a fast typer by the way !). After doing this I like to spend an hour checking on the markets and the systems currently being traded, I check on all my personal, asirikuy and third party accounts and I send emails to anyone who has an account with a problem in order to correct it ASAP (most of the time there are actually no problems). Then I like to watch an old time movie - probably in the style of Indiana Jones or Independence day - or an old episode of Seinfeld (my all time favorite show) while I do my daily 40 minutes of cardio (youre all doing this too right ?).

After this I cook my breakfast and depending on the mood I either spend the rest of the day working or I take the day off and go out to have lunch and spend the afternoon with my girl or my family (which includes hers). I usually work more than 60 hours every week (no kidding), making and preparing videos for Asirikuy, writing the weekly newsletter, designing new systems, researching commercial systems, researching systems developed in forums, testing systems, analyzing data, etc. I often tend to think that the fact that I dont have a 9 to 5 job is actually detrimental to my life in the sense that I tend to over-work a lot, since there is no 9-5 span of time which limits when I work... I just sometimes work all the time !

I do have to say that there are several things I like about my life style, one of the things I like the most is the freedom to cook :o). I love cooking and I have to say that I spend about 3 hours every day preparing meals for myself and my girl when she is home. I am by no means a great cook but I am improving and hopefully in the future Ill be able to eat delicious meals everyday, courtesy of cooking skills developed over years of training. It seems that most chemists end up being good cooks, hopefully I am not the exception !

Now there are other aspects I hate, and the most important of this is that I have no control over when I can be or not be available. Trading - either manual or automated- demands a great deal of focusing and control, it is not an option but mandatory to have a 24/7 internet connection you can use all the time and you cannot simple "get lost" as there are many people (in my case) which count on you and your expertise everyday. So I actually do not work 9-5, in a few ways I work 24/7 .

Maybe I am just a hopeless workoholic but I like what I am doing and I think (at least hope !) that I am making a difference in the sense that I am providing an honest and transparent approach to automated trading without hoping for any massive reward. The earning I get from Asirikuy and this website are quite small (I would have to charge about 50 USD for the subscriptions if I wanted to live from this !) but I think that all the work is rewarded in the sense that I get to live from trading my own systems, I get to improve them as time goes by and I get to do all of this without having to be dishonest, unethical or scamming any poor soul. Will I ever get burned out from doing this and decide to just live from trading and leave the stress of handling my small -yet very time consuming- business ? Hopefully with all the good feedback I get and the satisfation this generates me this wont be the case :o)

If you would like to learn more about my approach to profit from automated trading and how you too can learn to get realistic profits using sound trading strategies please consider buying my ebook on automated trading or joining Asirikuy to receive all ebook purchase benefits, weekly updates, check the live accounts I am running with several expert advisors and get in the road towards long term success in the forex market using automated trading systems. I hope you enjoyed the article !
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You dont have anything to lose What a fallacy !

In the time in which I have been reviewing and using automated trading systems I have come across a countless number of commercial expert advisor sellers and their websites. I would have to say that from all the things they say, one of the worst and most dangerous is their ultimate catch phrase "you dont have anything to lose". Today I decided to write a post about why this phrase is not only totally untrue but also exceedingly dangerous for new traders who dont know anything or too little about the way in which automated trading works.

First things first. The reason why this statement has become so popular amongst expert advisor sellers is because most of them offer money back guarantees. If you dont like their software after a given fixed period of time whatever money you used to buy the EA will be given back to you. So nothing to lose then ? right ? You buy the EA, you use it, if you dont like it, youll get your money back, no harm done, if it is junk you will get your money back.

Well my friends, this is a big mistake ! You have to take into account all the risks you expose yourself to when you buy an automated trading system. Since the objective of most people is to run the expert advisor on their live accounts for long periods of time, the long term profitability of the expert advisor plays a huge role. Take into account that most commercial junk experts out there are engineered to give you short term profits with a huge market exposure that will eventually cash on your account. If you are trading with your money and you lose it, you risk losing much more than the purchase price of the EA. There is no way in the world in which you should be able to know if the EA is long term profitable with just 6 weeks of testing which is what most of these experts offer as a long term guarantee.

So lets see. Joe buys the Superhype EA which has a 6 month guarantee. Joe trades this EA on demo for the 6 weeks and the expert has actually made significant profits, so no worry, Joe is satisfied with his product and does not want a refund. Now, Joe puts his real money on this EA and at month 3 of running it live the EA goes into consistent draw down and in month 5 Joe is down 85%. Joe lost the 100 USD that Superhype costed him plus 1000 USD he has on his live account. Nothing to lose ? Think again, you have everything to lose when you expose yourself to any automated trading system. The only thing that can give you assurance that this will not happen is to have an EA that fulfills well established criteria for long term profitability, something most commercial experts out there do not do (check my reviews to see what I mean !).

If you would like to learn more about how you can know which experts are long term profitable and how you can profit from automated trading using trading systems with realistic profit and draw down targets please consider buying my ebook on automated trading or subscribing to my weekly newsletter to receive updates and check the live and demo accounts I am running with several expert advisors. I hope you enjoyed this article !
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Trading S R a Guide to my Trading Methodology

I have received some requests from people who have been interested in learning more about my manual support and resistance trading system inquiring about the specifics of the system and how it may be traded successfuly. It seems that there is a lot of confusion regarding how I choose my entries and how the system is globally traded. The objective of todays post is to draw some light into the steps I take when trading this S&R method so that other people can start trading this same way successfuly. The method uses incredibly sound trading tactics based solely on price action and I believe this is one of the simplest and most effective ways in which anyone can trade the forex markets.

To begin with, I am going to tell you the steps that I take when I go into trading my S&R trading methodology. By following these steps youll be able to get a lot more into my thought process and realize why I take the trades that are executed on the demo account (which I comment and signal on twitter). You will see that the steps require a great deal of discretion and that practice is the most important thing to trade my S&R method in a successful manner. One thing which I believe is great about this system is that as one gets experience with it, market behavior starts to show in a much clearer fashion. So what are the steps I take when using this method (my day trading S&R tactic) ?

1. Take an instrument you want to trade

2. Open up a one hour chart and other charts if you want to

3. Based on this information answer the question : Where is the trend going ? It is very important for you to be able to answer this question clearly. The system depends greatly on your ability to know where the market is globally heading. That is, you should be able to follow the trend. If the picture is not clear to you, then do NOT trade. As a wise trader once said "It is always better to lose opportunities than capital". Also do not overanalyze the situation, look at the chart. During the last 20 hours has price gone up ? or down ? If you can clearly say where the trend is likely headed then go to 4.

4. Now that you know where price is going you should locate support and resistance levels. The trick here is that you are going to wait for price to reach a resistance after a new low (in downtrends) or a support after a new high (in uptrends) and when price tests that level you are going to get into the trade in the direction of the trend. You should set your SL at a break of the resistance/support level you entered and the TP at the low or high price reached (which is a support or resistance level).

5. Before placing the trade make sure that you only place it if you can achieve a risk to reward ratio of at least 1:2, most preferably 1:3 and make sure that you trade a lot size such that you risk only 2% of your trading capital. Using the TradingBuddy EA mentioned on a post a few days ago should greatly help you with the accurate money management of trades.

As you see, the system is based on some very simple principles. You have to follow the trend, you have to enter on favorable spots (buy low, sell high) and you should have adequate money management with a very favorable risk to reward ratio. This tactic makes sure that it will be extremely hard for you to blow an account. You need to lose 50 consecutive trades to wipe an account and each trade you win buys you at least 3 loses. Trading this method will make you better at judging price action and will make market action much clearer to your eyes. In a few months you will be great at judging overall price direction and you will feel comfortable trading without any indicators.

However you should understand that this is no holy grail. Often you will not read market direction appropiately or price will reach your SL before continuing in the direction of the trend. This is normal. This method intends to allow you to have a fair share of loses, that is, you can lose 60% of the time and still come out with a profit. The key is to follow the method and learn from your mistakes. A trading journal in which each trade is recorded is VITAL to the success of anyone who wants to become a good manual trader.

If you would like to learn more about money management and the use of automated trading systems to trade the forex market successfully please consider buying my ebook on automated trading or subscribing to my weekly newsletter to receive updates and check the live and demo accounts I am running with several expert advisors. I hope you enjoyed the article !
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